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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: May 2, 2012 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: reply to the mindset idea

I tried the reply and did not get in.
As to this mindset I do not think they ever considered that 1 set was longer than the other and we need to either trim or make up time.In the latter years where everything was computer controlled they had 90 minute sets a set break and 1 encore. Most places have a definitive curfew and they were beholden to that.The days of playing till 4-5 in the morning are long gone and most probably never to be repeated by anyone.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 3, 2012 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

I am not sure, but I think this thread ended up being about whether or not I should be allowed to blather on and on and on...Apparently, some think I shouldn't post after about 1130 when Ring lee o goes to bed or Arb is just waking up, and frankly, that's not a problem, as I am in bed by about 9 pm. Others think I should be forced to stay awake til 2, 3 even 4 am! I imagine they are confident this disruption to my REM cycle would cause me to stop posting altogether.

Nice try, BD, nice try...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: May 3, 2012 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

Ha. If it's any help, I'm trying to go to bed earlier, too.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 2, 2012 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

You're there, FYI; is it just that you saw that "error...wrong forum/no forum selected" or some such? Just ignore that.

Just like I ignore all requests from Jeff Kaplan, Diana, and many other admins here to "just go away!" and "please, stop posting so much! We don't want to keep track of all this drivel!!!" or the best: "who do you think YOU are? Don't you have anything BETTER to do?!?"

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Poster: bahbah Date: May 3, 2012 2:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

'just ignore...' Keep it up, its becoz of guys like you that we have something fresh every day on the forum otherwise we would be stuck with the same post for days & days.

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: May 3, 2012 3:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

Will thanks for the heads up.Like you, we know what we've seen and heard and some of it was not that good. For the most part you got your monies worth and that feeling that this show will be a gem.Again the days of Winterland,Kaiser Aud,The Fillmores are long gone and mostly all venues do have curfews and your out by 11:30 which does time out to about 90 minutes a set w/ a half hour set break and 1 encore.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: May 3, 2012 4:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

It's the effect of the baby boom generation. When we were that age and we wanted to party, everything stayed open later so we could party. When we got too old to party into the wee hours, suddenly none of the venues were open that late anyway. I remember wondering at one point, years ago already, if I had imagined that concerts used to go much later and be much wilder ... when did we start filing out politely at 11:00, with all the house lights up? It must have been around the same time they banned smoking, but before cell phones.
sorry for the early morning geezer reminiscences.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: May 3, 2012 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

Sadly, curfews were already in place by the time I hit the age of concert attendence.I have never seen any concert that I can remember that wasn't over by midnight at the latest. And midnight was the exception. most were over by 11 - 11:30. This was all bands, not just GD. This was mid 80s thru early 90s. i seem to remember there being shows at the Spectrum that started at 7PM instead of 7:30 or 8PM due to curfew concerns. Weren't there a couple of years where shows at Merriweather started @ 6PM for the same reasons? or was I dosed??

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Poster: deadhead53 Date: May 3, 2012 10:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

Actually I saw moe. a few years ago at the House of Blues in Boston, there was an opening act and moe. took the stage at 9:15 and played until 1:45am with a set break, it was long but a hell of a lot of fun. I am not sure if the HOB allows this all the time I know beantown has a 2:00am last call but it was kinds cool. I saw the Balck Crowes there 8 months later and they only played until 11 but they came on at 7 and had a set break and encore so who knows but everywhere else I have seen show (can't do the festivals anymore the 40year old back cannot camp anymore and I have become too accustomed to the comforts of my home! hahahahaha) there has been somesort of a curfew, saw Govt' Mule at Hamptpon Beach they went of stage at 1am and saw the DSO and they did not go off until 12:45-1 am so maybe some venues allow and some don't

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Poster: adks12020 Date: May 3, 2012 5:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

I'm an age where most "larger" shows (ie. arenas, amphitheaters, big theaters, etc.) have been saddled with 1100pm-12am curfews my whole concert going life as well. The only shows I've ever seen that went later were in bars and clubs that held less than 1,000 people. I've seen many shows in those types of venues that went until 2-3am (saw P-Funk play until 430am once years ago).

Small venues are awesome anyway. I go to a few big concerts a year but most of my live music time is spent at bars, clubs, and small theaters. The shows are longer, more interactive, and a heck of a lot cheaper. I saw The Greyboy Allstars twice last weekend for a total of $30...5 sets and over 5.5 hours of music for $30! And they played until about 1am both nights (exact end time is questionable since the Brooklyn Brewery supplies very cheap alcohol by NYC standards). I'll take it.

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: May 3, 2012 11:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

I do remember when I lived in S.F. that a club let whom ever was playing to go on until their set was finished.What they did was to issue a last call then they removed all glasses from the tables.While they were clearing the tables the music went on till it's rightful end. I think the name of the club was The Old Waldorf,since that I've rarely been to a show that went on.One exception of course was Tuna at the Ritz and they did play till about 3:30am.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 3, 2012 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

Folks, there are plenty of fests where there are late night shows that go one all freaking night. While I agree re curfews/unions and other issues at major concert venues, there is a plenty of live music that gets played in the wee hours ... other than arb, did folks forget how to poke around?

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Poster: adks12020 Date: May 3, 2012 11:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

That's why I mentioned bars and clubs. Fests, for me, are mostly a non-starter these days. They are expensive and I only get so many days of vacation, most of which I choose to spend with my girlfriend who loves live music but isn't too keen on the camping for four days without a shower thing(I do go to at least one fest per year with friends).

As a regular thing, bars, clubs and small theaters are the places to get shows that go late. I've seen at least 10 shows that went from 830-9pm to 2-3am in the past 6 months in my home city in upstate New York. They were all small though (at most a couple hundred people).

I've never seen a show at an arena or amphitheater that went more than a little later than midnight unless it was New Years Eve...and I've seen hundreds of large shows like that. The venues just don't allow it.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: May 4, 2012 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

Free on Sunday?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: May 3, 2012 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

Yeah.

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 3, 2012 7:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: reply to the mindset idea

'just ignore...' Keep it up, its becoz of guys like you that we have something fresh every day on the forum otherwise we would be stuck with the same post for days & days.

Ummmm, try the same post for YEARS AND YEARS bahbah
Or at least thats what it seems like :)

Just keep on using the bastardized facebook of the GD,
WT needs to work up to 13,000 by the end of the year...